Pavements are pretty narrow in Seville, particularly in the cobbled, quaint parts of town. Sometimes I think it’s rather an insult calling them a pavement at all for the lot of good they do. It’s an everyday occurrence to find someone coming at you in the opposite direction, desperately clinging to the same precarious, concrete edge. And it’s at this point I find myself with the dizzying conundrum: step off or be stepped on.
So more often than not it’s me who leaps off into oncoming traffic, waits to let people pass, steps into a doorway or shimmies up a lamp post. It’s my choice obviously and one that’s based on that innate British horror at offending or inconveniencing the other. So here I am looking expectantly into the eyes of the fellow human being I’ve stood aside to let past and 80% of the time it´s a big fat nothing in return. Okay, if I’m honest, it’s not entirely nothing; eye contact is indeed made, but instead of a warm acknowledgement of my efforts, I'm met with a cold, hard stare that enters my hopeful heart like a burning hot arrow.
For the first year or so in Seville, I took it all very badly. Such pavement encounters were met with audible, narked off sighs (on my behalf) and an occasional 'both hands on hip in utter disbelief' stance. But then an English Reading Comprehension exercise entitled ‘Watching the English’ changed my perspective. Taken from the book of the same name by anthropologist Kate Fox, she studies the quirks and foibles of the English character, where fair play or the lack of it gets us extremely riled and sorry is every other word. After the first few paragraphs I soon began to realise that my expectations and concept of politeness were purely cultural and far from definitive.
So with a new ‘I know it’s not personal’ bravado I thought I’d use my observations of Seville etiquette and see what would entail. Which was, by the way, a complete disaster. A late night encounter on my bike with a street cleaner who very politely stopped to let me through, went completely unacknowledged by my new 'Sevillanoed' self, much should I say to his palpable disdain. Here was a perfectly nice man just being kind to a passing 'guiri' and all he got as thanks was a Paddington Bear stare and a gust of wind as I cycled past at break neck speed. I felt like throwing down my bike and pleading for his forgiveness, but instead I just kept on cycling cursing all the while at the utter failure of my attempt to fit in.
I would like to point out at this point that this is not a personal slight on people from Seville, Andalusia or Spain in general. But I just want to know what to do. Please someone tell me. All I’ve ever wanted to do is fit in, as much as I can being a 5ft 9 blond with freckles and pale skin, but at least if I know when to say please and thank you that will be a start. So, this is a kind of shout out to any Spanish or Andalusian social etiquette experts: Please teach me some manners.
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Even before reading this article, this has been a common gripe of mine as an Irish guiri in Madrid. Pavements are a little (only a little!) more substantial in most of the city but I am always, ALWAYS the one to step aside. Initially I wondered if it's only the guiris stepping aside (friends have complained about the same), how do the Spanish not collide with each other more often? So many things I still don't understand six years on. People here are, on the whole, wonderful but what constitutes as manners here confounds me often. Nice article
Publicado por: Eavan Smith | 31/08/2015 15:54:45
https://adaneinseville.wordpress.com/2014/10/12/another-cultural-difference/
Publicado por: Dan | 02/07/2015 22:23:37
You think ahead, the Spanish person doesn't. It's not that he doesn't want to, it's just not a part of the culture (in certain situations). Check-out a pretty good example in the link.
Publicado por: Dan | 02/07/2015 22:22:56
Thanks all for your wise words and advice. I will drop the odd ´de nada´ and see what happens.
Publicado por: Mary Biles | 24/06/2015 17:47:59
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Publicado por: Soltero de oro | 23/06/2015 14:11:53
Andalucians* appreciate politeness and good manners.
Publicado por: george | 23/06/2015 13:04:59
Oh how I miss those cobbled sunlight streets.
I used to live in andalucia.like every one every where, you are better off being polite and considerate.I found being polite in Spanish was always positively received.
Don't try to fit in just be yourself,and as you are already inclined to being polite...stick with that!Andalucia appreciate politeness!
Publicado por: george | 23/06/2015 13:03:23
Having lived in Andalucia for 24 years and Seville for 6 of those, I can safely say, at the risk of offending my many Sevillano friends is that this is a fairly modern development, as when I first arrived in Spain, the people in general and the youth were particularly polite, respectful compared to the sullen, rude, ignorant bunch that exist today. I noticed this began to change during the 8 yrs in government of Aznar and his Thatcherite policies, the continuous dumbing down of education and the creation of a pretty stupid, consumer-orientated society that only believes in 2 things: self and money.
The other thing is that compared to most other Spaniards or Andalucians, the 'sevillanos' have an unusually high opinion of themselves, and other Spaniards commonly refer to them as believing they are the 'umbligo del mundo', the bellybutton of the world...
Publicado por: David Sketchley | 23/06/2015 12:45:15
Wonderful article. I love it. I understand you so well: I was born and raised in the Uk (Leaminghton Spa) so I have been inoculated with most of the cocktail that makes you an englishman. On the other hand, I have lived in Seville for 7 years. i like to think I have the best of both worlds.
I recomend you speak out so your dumb but not deaf passer by can hear your laconic "de nada" so he can feel the pressure for the absence of a "gracias".
Two scenarios can arise: A late recognition of your politness, you will have encountered a well bred. If you get no reply you just happened to come across an A** H***.
Publicado por: Roberto Gonzalez Astobiza | 23/06/2015 7:25:42
Hi Mary,
Thanks for sharing your reflections on such a delicate matter.
My advice is that you don't change: just be yourself and don't stop saying "thank you" and "sorry" every single time you interact with a stranger, like any English person does. That way you will fit in. Maybe you won' fit in as a local, but as a very nice and polite guiri, but that's what you are, and that's what we like.
And also, don't give so much importance to those apparently rude gestures. They mean so much for you, but surely most of the people who don't step off the pavement didn't even notice.
Enjoy your stay in Sevilla, and thanks for your interest in our country.
Publicado por: Rubén Ruiz | 23/06/2015 7:10:57